diff --git a/lib/form/dateselector.php b/lib/form/dateselector.php
index dbe81b09fe3..0f9ec2cbfcd 100644
--- a/lib/form/dateselector.php
+++ b/lib/form/dateselector.php
@@ -130,11 +130,12 @@ class MoodleQuickForm_date_selector extends MoodleQuickForm_group {
         // If optional we add a checkbox which the user can use to turn if on.
         if ($this->_options['optional']) {
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('checkbox', 'enabled', null,
-                get_string('enable'), $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                get_string('enable'), $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
         }
         foreach ($dateformat as $key => $value) {
             // E_STRICT creating elements without forms is nasty because it internally uses $this
-            $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', $key, get_string($key, 'form'), $value, $this->getAttributes(), true);
+            $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', $key, get_string($key, 'form'), $value,
+                $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
         }
         // The YUI2 calendar only supports the gregorian calendar type so only display the calendar image if this is being used.
         if ($calendartype->get_name() === 'gregorian') {
diff --git a/lib/form/datetimeselector.php b/lib/form/datetimeselector.php
index 26b181a5e03..10446e20cac 100644
--- a/lib/form/datetimeselector.php
+++ b/lib/form/datetimeselector.php
@@ -134,26 +134,27 @@ class MoodleQuickForm_date_time_selector extends MoodleQuickForm_group {
         // If optional we add a checkbox which the user can use to turn if on.
         if ($this->_options['optional']) {
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('checkbox', 'enabled', null,
-                get_string('enable'), $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                get_string('enable'), $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
         }
         $dateformat = $calendartype->get_date_order($this->_options['startyear'], $this->_options['stopyear']);
         if (right_to_left()) {   // Display time to the right of date, in RTL mode.
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', 'minute', get_string('minute', 'form'),
-                $minutes, $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                $minutes, $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', 'hour', get_string('hour', 'form'),
-                $hours, $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                $hours, $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
             // Reverse date element (Should be: Day, Month, Year), in RTL mode.
             $dateformat = array_reverse($dateformat);
         }
         foreach ($dateformat as $key => $date) {
             // E_STRICT creating elements without forms is nasty because it internally uses $this
-            $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', $key, get_string($key, 'form'), $date, $this->getAttributes(), true);
+            $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', $key, get_string($key, 'form'), $date,
+                $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
         }
         if (!right_to_left()) {   // Display time to the left of date, in LTR mode.
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', 'hour', get_string('hour', 'form'), $hours,
-                $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('select', 'minute', get_string('minute', 'form'), $minutes,
-                $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                $this->getAttributesForFormElement(), true);
         }
         // The YUI2 calendar only supports the gregorian calendar type so only display the calendar image if this is being used.
         if ($calendartype->get_name() === 'gregorian') {
diff --git a/lib/form/duration.php b/lib/form/duration.php
index aeb152a1c0f..0ff1aaf2ee2 100644
--- a/lib/form/duration.php
+++ b/lib/form/duration.php
@@ -172,10 +172,7 @@ class MoodleQuickForm_duration extends MoodleQuickForm_group {
      * Override of standard quickforms method to create this element.
      */
     function _createElements() {
-        $attributes = $this->getAttributes();
-        if (is_null($attributes)) {
-            $attributes = [];
-        }
+        $attributes = $this->getAttributesForFormElement();
         if (!isset($attributes['size'])) {
             $attributes['size'] = 3;
         }
@@ -191,7 +188,7 @@ class MoodleQuickForm_duration extends MoodleQuickForm_group {
         // If optional we add a checkbox which the user can use to turn if on
         if($this->_options['optional']) {
             $this->_elements[] = $this->createFormElement('checkbox', 'enabled', null,
-                    get_string('enable'), $this->getAttributes(), true);
+                    get_string('enable'), $attributes, true);
         }
         foreach ($this->_elements as $element){
             if (method_exists($element, 'setHiddenLabel')){
diff --git a/lib/form/group.php b/lib/form/group.php
index c8a3935d935..c6417b2d0d2 100644
--- a/lib/form/group.php
+++ b/lib/form/group.php
@@ -155,6 +155,16 @@ class MoodleQuickForm_group extends HTML_QuickForm_group implements templatable
         return call_user_func_array([$this->_mform, 'createElement'], func_get_args());
     }
 
+    /**
+     * Return attributes suitable for passing to {@see createFormElement}, comprised of all group attributes without ID in
+     * order to ensure uniqueness of that value within the group
+     *
+     * @return array
+     */
+    public function getAttributesForFormElement(): array {
+        return array_diff_key((array) $this->getAttributes(), array_flip(['id']));
+    }
+
     public function export_for_template(renderer_base $output) {
         global $OUTPUT;
 
diff --git a/lib/form/upgrade.txt b/lib/form/upgrade.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..51b41934669
--- /dev/null
+++ b/lib/form/upgrade.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
+This files describes API changes in core_form libraries and APIs,
+information provided here is intended especially for developers.
+
+=== 4.1.7 ===
+
+* The group element has a new method `getAttributesForFormElement` which should be used in conjunction
+  with `createFormElement` to ensure that all elements within the group have unique IDs